Haha seeing Vexodus blow up on leitmotifs... 
Didn't know you spoke [language]
...Hang on how did I miss that
there's some stuff there...I think @Allagainstthedemiurge probably said something like that
huh
I don't know how to argue against this other than you just not hearing it. Many people say BLACK KNIFE doesn't have Lost Girl, Hammer of Justice's rendition of the Freedom Motif is very brief and butchered to oblivion, but no one disagrees that it's the freedom motif.
Yeah, that happens, and he still has no connection to Tenna. Mettaton only potentially adopts him after we already hear Death by Glamour in his theme, Mettaton has never seen Tenna before chapter 4.
I never argued Spamton NEO doesn't look like Mettaton NEO or wasn't meant to be a stand-in for a Mettaton NEO fight, I argue the exact opposite of this on my google doc (in a much more controversial take than this):
I have an explanation prior to why Tenna, Ruddin Ranger, the Cuptains, Winglade and the big Ball Machine all represent "The Knight" (not necessarily "Dess"), but again that is long.
At this point I should just link my doc on my profile or something instead of vaguely quoting it every time something like this comes up.
No, but if both use Chaos (Chaos King, Chaos Queen) then yeah.
There is no confirmation Dess is the Knight so the Titans are pretty irrelevant
Wasn't Friend in Chapter 1?
Well, it is a good thing that never happens then. King is only called "Chaos King" is the track that plays for the Spades King. Queen is never called Chaos Queen anywhere at all.
I'm not going into Knight candidate discussion, but it's fun how you can just say something doesn't matter because you don't like it.
? Literally no? Where?
Most considerate of other theories Dess Knighter
All evidence for Dess Knight works for any of the Holidays. Including Noelle. Hell, some of it even works for Asriel.
Brother (genderneutral) I do not know how you can take this from what I said aside from you personally not liking me.
Yes, this is what I said. Anyone who is against Dess Knight has probably said something in this sentiment too. Like what you said in response.
Which is the exact same thing, but phrased in a snarky way to make me look like a bad guy. I could have said "Most considerate of Dess Knight non Dess Knighter" at first and my post would have the same point.
Tell me where DBG is in TV TIME
(as a composer, I'm very not-normal about leitmotifs)
I can assure you, if it's at the start, you're out of your mind.
If anything, the start is closer to big shot, but even then, it is still its own unique melody.
they're not on the same scale degrees
they do not even follow the same CONTOUR, which is normally the thing that people hallucinate on.
Not even the same rhythm, for crying out loud!
The three basic aspects of melodywriting. All three do not match up.
Trust me, I am open to finding new leitmotifs, like how I believe that DARK ZONE has the A section of the legend.
But TV TIME does not have Death By Glamour
I would like this reply if I didn't have 41 minutes until I can like again.
Given how much you're replying, I somehow don't believe you.
I didn't say this.
I didn't say this.
Or it could just be because he's a Ton of Spam. (Spamton is an anagram of Tampons too)
Then ok. If you can't hear it where I hear it then you can't hear it where I hear it.
I am a layman in music, but if you only find motifs through this cold analysis you might aswell say Gaster's Theme is Lost Girl is Freedom. And to be fair, that might actually be right for all I know.
I would be much more inclined to hear any arguments against it if people came at me a little less aggressively.
I'm pretty sure it's not the exact motif, but it definitely takes from DBG. Unless you're hearing some part I'm forgetting about.
Correction: HEAVILY takes from DBG.
"Mettaton made the NEO body" would just be... no. not even fanservice. it fits into nothing.
the bit about you being unable to argue was just to close off any (logical) rebuttal potential>
and again, as I stress above, listening by ear alone can oftentimes lead to incorrect info.
please just trust me as somebody who knows music, dbg is not in tv time
*Quotes me saying it's not fanservice*
yeah my argument was more just to why it wasn't pointless
take inspiration vibeswise, I'd say almost certainly
as does big shot
Yeah... I really don't hear DBG bar for bar, but it's definitely very inspired.