Given Pink and the ghost are the same character, should this not be merged with Pink's page? Arguing that the body being its own character should make them separate doesn't really hold when the game and characters regard them as two parts of one entity. The conjectural name also has no reason to be used when we are given a canonical name for her in Chapter 5. Specifying her pronouns are for her role as Pink is also redundant when we are never given any other pronouns for her in the first place.
seconding merging irritable ghost into pink. i know we do different pages for different forms (see Spamton vs Spamton NEO) but i dont really think her lightworld conversation/form/whatever is substantial enough to warrant another page for her. it'd only make sense if we also made a separate page for her body, which would have even less substance, so i don't think it'd be useful.
Bringing this discussion back to say that I personally agree, I think the irritable ghost and Pink's body are so intertwined that there isn't enough material for individual pages, thought I'm not sure what the standard for group pages is now that each Mike has his own page.
EACH MIKE HAS IT'S OWN PAGE?!?!?
WHY??
They're all different characters... it fits.
nuh uh, irritable ghost is the same ghost that posesses mad dummy and mad mew mew in undertale, pink is closer to the anime character that Alphys loves
I say we should remove all the stuff about the ghost from the Pink page and leave it only in the ghost article.
By that logic, Sweet Cap'n Cakes and Elnina and Lanino should also have separate pages. I think the criteria should be more precise than "they are different characters"
There was a plan earlier to split Elnina and Lanino as well, it might happen.
Okay, here me out: Make a page about the Mew Mew doll/Pink's body
The ghost and the body are 2 entities that, together, form Pink. You can't remove info about either of the 2 from Pink's page because both of them are Pink, not just the body.
Really? Will the rest of group pages be split aswell? If not, then what's the standard?
MatsTheCatTemp is supportive of merging irritable ghost with Pink's page for the reasons stated here in irritable ghost's talk page:
I've made my point of view on this matter clear already, but I would also like to add that another reason I think irritable ghost and Pink should be merged is because both the ghost and the body are 2 entities that, together, form Pink. So you can't really separate either of Pink's components because of how intertwined they are. (Also because if any of them get different pages, then who's to say that Clover's heads shouldn't all get individual pages)
I disagree with the merge, especially following the recent Chapter 5 patch. We see that the body has feelings for Kris and knowledge of the Friends, whereas the ghost does not, is a lightner, and reacts differently to many situations. If a merge does happen, I would advise framing Pink as a system. They do say "We are Pink" in the battle - but Pink consists of two egos.
But then again, I think Elnina and Lanino, as well as Sweet, Cap'n, and KK warrant their own pages, for similar reasons; not many wikis categorise characters in the way this one does. Sure, there's notability reasons, but...feh? There's opportunities for more precise documentation, right? Concept art, individualised galleries, internal data, etc...
'we don't treat Mettaton's ghost and Mettaton as seperate characters' strikes me as a very false equivalence
Mettaton's body is not its own character, it's just a vessel for Mettaton the ghost, so it wouldn't make any sense to treat Mettaton's body and ghost as seperate
Pink's body is it's own character. That's kind of a whole thing, in fact!
[Ralsei] Pink, your BODY... it's... its own person, too.
[Ralsei] It has its own likes... its own dislikes.
I'm not sure how this should be handled for the wiki, but I definitely don't think it's apt to cite how we handle Mettaton as a precedent to be followed. They're very different situations
I think it could even make sense to split further, to have 3 seperate pages for Pink as-a-unit, Pink's ghost, and Pink's body. But idk how practical that'd really end up being
I also think the better idea would be to create a third article for the body, and leave the Pink article solely for information about the fight. The question would be how to call the article, "Pink's body", "Mew Mew Doll", or just "Mew Mew"
The darkner herself is never actually called Mew Mew, it's only ever 'Pink's body' (or other noun phrases to that effect). So it should probably just be that
I don't think that having Pink's page solely for her fight is a good idea, since Pink is a persona, not just a group.
Also, the only way the body is referred as in-game is "Pink's body". So, if this article is made, it should be called that.