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To not spam the already huge Demiurge thread, I will create another thread dedicated only to the Friend Knight theory.

I had this theory that the Roaring Knight is Friend (who is also probably Mike), and because he is somehow involved with Gaster it makes him a traitor to his own kind.

Recently, I stumbled upon this interesting and first ever video about Friend Knight on youtube, and oh boy the author pointed out things that even I have missed while playing the game.

First off, Friend is certainly behind the shadow crystals, as he could've easily placed the shadow crystal inside the machine and tell Spamton about it. And Roaring Knight actually seems to generate them out of thin air, as you get one out of nowhere after beating it in C3, and in C1 Jevil has it and it the Chapter it's implied that he was interacting with the Knight. A stretch? Maybe

Second, ERAM doesn't actually exist. The Mantle minigame is orchestrated by Friend, as the dark rooms in thefirst board show us: eyes of Friend(1), smile of Friend(2), and the middle room has ERAM's dark text stating "Having fun?"(3). It's something that I completely missed out when playing the game.

However, I actually found even more subtle details. C3 starts off with showing us that Friend is an amalgamete of sorts, and in UNDERTALE amalgametes hid themselves in ordinary objects and furniture. It would explain why there is SMILE item in the vending machine outside Mantle room that disappears once you complete the minigame, Friend was hiding in there. And if you damage the Shadow Mantle in the minigame, the screen glitches as if you're fighting the game itself. As if Friend was possessing the game itself.

Moreover, in the last phase of the Shadow Mantle boss, the textures change to crying eyes of the Roaring. This indicates to me that Friend not only laughs, but cries. And it would make sense if he was the Roaring Knight, because the Knight both cries and laughs from pain, like Gaster.

"But muh muh, the Knight was late"! "the chapter is called Late Knight u stupid!", uhhh aren't you forgetting something important? Knight and other possible intruders could've easily enter from the window, Kris left it open in C2.

But you could also say that if this theory is true, then writing of DELTARUNE is shit. I agree. And so I hope for these statements to be false.

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Oh and because Friend is ERAM, it makes it somewhat impossible for the person behind Thank You ARG to be Friend. Completely different mannerism there. So I think it's the Yaldabaoth.

"EVERY DAY IS A DAY OF LOVE, ONLY IF YOU BELIEVE IT SO"

The person behind Thank You ARG definitely goes by a rule like this, talking about future events with the strong belief that they will happen or have already happened. As if their words are unbreakable and determine the fate itself.

"THE FORBIDDEN PATH BEGAN WITH ICE MAGIC"

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Papyrus is the Knight

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@EvilandHomophobicKnight Okay? And? Not even doing anything here, just saying shit with nothing to it

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:eyes:

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:melting_face:

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I'm getting smited for off-topic aren't I

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Excuse me where does gaster get hurt?

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@allagainstthedemiurge okay but explain rudy's ch4 interaction if he's not the knight

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@Allagainstthedemiurge OK but can you explain Monster Kid KNIGHT?
(@Fwugradiation you know what to do.)

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We STAND FRIENDKnight here.

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The ARG is way closer to Eram than the forgotten man. It's smug and in normal capitalization.

I think that Eram isn't FRIEND and FRIEND is probably the one speaking there, though, to be clear.

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I didn't state this in the thread, but in my opinion Friend Knight should be on the same level of possibility as Rudy Knight, Dess Knight and others

I geniunly don't know. However, it disproves Rudy Knight because this entire interaction wouldn't happen if that was so. He asks a question why Kris brought a [FRIEND!!!] and acts very suspicious after that. I wouldn't do that if I knew that the SOUL is watching. Thus, Rudy does not know about SOUL's existence.

Susie is a Dark Knight. Her primary color is MAGENTA.

Therefore, there must be a YELLOW Dark Knight. Like a monster kid.

Roaring Knight is not a YELLOW Dark Knight. Therefore not a monster kid.

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I mean,
we're in control of kris, he probably knows that
and he can't reveal his identity to us

which is why he uses such odd phrases as 'hand-washing marathon' in chapter 2.
you'd never guess where kris rips us out in ch2.
subliminal messaging, baby.

him getting annoyed when susie is there would be nothing.
if not for the fact that we had just just spent the previous night with susie, fighting the antlered knight.
he's chill with susie if he meets her before the fight with the knight.
but not after.

i mean when you spell it out it's kinda obvious
it also makes sense why toby would put such an obvious hint here
because he knows that players will most likely have interacted with everything they could in previous chapters, ensuring they wouldn't see this.

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Something I forgot to mention about Friend being ERAM, is that ERAM states one interesting thing.

"I can see in the dark, you know"

And in Chapter 4, in which it's revealed that we can't see shit in the dark, Friend appears in a dark room. Clearly, he can see in the dark. That foreshadowing of not being able to see in the dark in the next chapter is still cool to be honest.

Still, not a strong evidence, Toby hides the identity of the Roaring Knight for now so we can't be sure. But it fits narratively so I like this theory

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Yellow LNIGHT appears in ch5 I think
Been a while since AU me went and checked on that
Might breach the timelines to look at that soon but it’s like bedtime for me so

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Also damn
Rudy KNIGHT evidence seems
Actually good
…
…
damn

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"When you have watched dozens of deltarune theory videos, everything seems like evidence."
Seriously there may be a suspicious interaction or two but Rudy Knight is such a schizo theory lol

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literally cope on your part
it's a holiday
dess has her whole thing in the code, also no direct connection to the church or even the police
carol's busy being a red herring and kris manipulator, has ties to all three
and rudy has a suspicious interaction that only happens after you beat the knight, ties to the police, the church, and the mayor, has an illness that popped up around the same time as the dark fountains started to, is unable to be seen or talked to whenever the fountains are being made, would be able to access the locations where the fountains are made without anybody batting an eye, tells you to do a handwashing marathon, etc, etc.

no theories are right or wrong at this point, and all theories are valid.
but calling rudy knight a schizo theory (SERIOUS misusage of the term 'schizo' btw, shame on you that's a real medical condition) is just CRAZY to me.
all theories are equal.

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Kris Knight, Susie Knight, Ralsei Knight, Toriel Knight, Undyne Knight, Tenna Knight

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