They’re the main antagonist of the game, and it would seem anti climactic if we only ever engage with them in Chapter 3. I do believe that Toby will give them more attacks for novelty’s sake, and to appeal to the older group of fans who’s already beaten the Knight.
I think instead of the knight being nerfed, I think the player will be a lot more powerful at that point, which will make the mandatory fight easier.
A scripted death "you're not ready for the main antagonist" fight is usually followed up by the real one.
As for difficulty, I'm not sure. Usually it would be nerfed, but I didn't find the Knight that hard to begin with. (ERAM kicked my shins in 10× more)
I mean, we never really BEAT it anyway.
Honestly, not sure if they're really the main antagonist. There could be a twist villain in a later chapter.
I think Tobys gonna buff the knight so that when we have to fight them it's still a challenge with the fun gang being much stronger by that point, but maybe not as bad damage wise, more like new tricks that weren't there before.
cough cough gaster cough cough
Gaster has infinite rizz, and I love them for that, so hopefully not.
(Assuming they and the Voice are the same character, which is extremely likely but not yet confirmed.)
Gaster has a literal cult following him. Ther'es no way he isn't malicious
A buffed knight fight being mandatory would be absurd. This would gatekeep the ending of the game from loads of players. Really, even an un-buffed version would do that. That’s not how Toby wants to implement his especially challenging bosses.
What are you talking about? There are no mandatory fights so far in Undertale or Deltarune that are near as hard as the knight. Toby was talking just the other day about how he wants people of various skill levels to be able to beat his games and puts in mechanics to make things much easier when people struggle. How is my argument “invalid”? You just think I’m wrong, but didn’t give counter-evidence. Additionally, if he does add a mechanic to make it easier, wouldn’t that be what you call “holding your hand?”
Okay, fair. I'll take that.
Bad choice of words on my part
Still, though... I can tell that Deltarune will be at least slightly harder than Deltarune (actually, maybe not, considering what Toby said), and there will likely be a weird route fight with an extremely hard super-superboss. Toby has made it clear with Snowgrave NEO that there will be mandatory fights that are difficult, same with Geno in Undertale. My guess is that we will fight a full-power knight on both routes, but it will give us a heavy advantage on normal (again, Asriel fight would be hell without the "it refused" mechanic), meanwhile, weird route will have the fight (or a fight with someone else) with no advantages.
That’s a good prediction. I agree that the weird route is clearly analogous to genocide, and I’m interested to see what battle it culminates in.
Yes, my point stands... in the weird route. THAT'S where we won't have hand holding.
Actually... Deltarune Might be easier than Undertale. Undertale has the LOVE system, so if you get stuck on Undyne or Asgore at LOVE 1, you can grind to LOVE 3 or 5 or 7 by going back... just don't kill too much.
Actually, Omega Flowey might invalidate that... He's just as powerful on all LOVE.
There is an argument to be made for Sans.
Assuming he's from Deltarune, he might not give us the same judgement that he does in Undertale, as he hasn't had the tragedy of leaving behind his universe. Assuming their two different entities, though, he could be argued, but I think Tricky Tony will pull a trademark Tony Trick, and give us a different judge.
He might not even judge us at all, and, assuming WR follows the prophecy, we might be rewarded for it... something to think about.
God I hope tricky tobacco Tobias foxington doesn't pull a twist villain on us!
-All the players, while gaster is laughing with dess in the bunker