This post is to address a discrepancy in how we format item names on the Deltarune Wiki versus how they are commonly formatted in the game.
Currently, we format item names using spaces and assumed full names (e.g. Princess Ribbon instead of PrincessRBN), akin to how Undertale formats item names. However, these names are, more often than not, never seen in the game and cause inconsistencies with the game versus the wiki.
In the wake of the standardization vote's conclusion, we voted to format names more closely to how they are depicted in the game. Logically, this should also extend to item names as well, meaning we should format the item names exactly as they are in game.
Here is my proposal for how we should do this:
For item names, in-game dialogue should come first, so we can keep names like "Shadow Crystal" and "Shadow Mantle". Then, we defer to the inventory formatting for all other cases.
We remove the short name parameter from the item infobox and place any special formatting in the main body.
Links will then point to the shortened and abbreviated names instead of the often conjectural "full names".
Please reply to this post with your thought on this proposal.
This is pretty good and makes sense, but I feel like at least a redirect for the full names should be made, as most users would probably use the full name in search.
The names that we have now will become redirects to the in-game name when the articles get moved. Once Chapter 5 releases, we will not use conjectural "full names" for its items, so we will not use redirects for those.
I can agree to this, this seems like a good scheme. We should be clear as to where each name is used, and where we're sourcing the non-short name, but "use naturalistic name if it exists, short name if it doesn't" is kind of the best way to do it.
Yeah this could work, I still think we should have full name redirects for the Chapter 5 items, because even if they are conjectural, people are more likely to make the full name and search with it.
I’m largely just paraphrasing and relaying much of HylianAngel’s opinion here, for others convenience:
As it is on the wiki, most of the spaced names are conjectural, even if some of them are contextually accurate like “Princess Ribbon”, since it is “PrincessRBN” in-game, or “Lancer Controller” being “LancerCon”.
Noelle refers to Thorn Ring as “ThornRing”, which happens to align with how she sees the Dark World paralleling games.
On a different note, we’ve still got unfortunate issues such as LancerCookie, which has been referred to as “Lancer Cookie” and “Lancer cookie” in dialogue..
We will create redirects as they appear in SearchDigest, but we should not be creating conjectural name redirects that no one will search for or link to.
I would actually suggest that the navigation template uses the compact names for everything, for the sake of space. It's okay if people aren't into that, though.
I think doing that would likely cause confusion if the article uses the spaced out name if we did that, especially since some items never use "compact" spacing, such as "Dark Candy".
Kocka had noted down the inconsistent names, which are prone to… Tobyspacing and may have a pinch of Tobycasing. Last term was originally coined by Violetsquare111. Here’s our list, for convenience:
