Sounds about right - Original Game would make sense there. Agree!
We also need to come to a consensus to how to phrase the allusions parts
"May be a reference to ...
"Appears to reference"
"Likely references"
"Appears to allude to "
"Likely alludes to"
"May allude to"
"May mirror"
"Appears to mirrors"
"Likely mirrors"
These seem to be the main ways to phrase it. What should be the standard way?
IMO we should pick a consensus between mirror/alludes/reference/something else, but likely/appears/may/something else can change depending on the likelyhood of the allusion.
For example green lizard being Gerson is listed on Original Game as a possibility but it's way less strong than yellow lizard being Alphys.
I don't think it's a big deal; not everything needs to be super mechanical. "Likely", "appears to", and "may" come across as judgements on likelihood. Likely feels like 75%, appears to be 60%, may 50%. Reference and allude to feel like synonyms, whereas mirror feels more like a literal reflection. These just feel like broad passages of English rather than something that needs a cookie cutter template.
Would you be fine with me making the changes detailed in my comment?
Namely the "Gameplay information" section and Ice Palace being a sub-heading if Island Board is listed.
Yeah, go nuts. My pages are there to be edited and negotiated on!
I think adding this to your original comment could be helpful, so people don't do repeat drafts
Current drafts:
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/Spearboss
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/Gray_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/White_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/Orange_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/Silver_Fish
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:PapyrusPikmin1997/Blue_Bird
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Purple_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Blue_fish
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Yellow_lizard
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Black_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/Silver_Fish
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:MMK-001/White_Monster
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Yellow_flower
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Aqua_flower
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Orange_flower
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Jumpy_lizard
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Alt_lizard
The system yells at me when trying to edit the OP as it was made too long ago, unfortunately.
The reverse of the Chapter 3 vinyl has the Mantle holder, White Monster, and HERO_SWORD with, well, the sword on it. Could be worth putting in Galleries for each. Do you guys crop these or go with the full image?
I think this works. Also. if an enemy only appears in the Ice Palace but not the rest of the Island Board, would it be just ====Ice Palace==== or would it be a sub-header of ====Island Board==== and, if so, shouldn't we make Manhole dungeon a sub-header for ====City Board====
https://deltarune.wiki/w/File:DELTARUNE_Chapter_3_Vinyl_Soundtrack_reverse_merch.png
Alright, chucked up the promo image and beaming it up to the relevant pages. If some amazing vinyl collector grabs it then a scan can be put up too ig
If it only appears in IP, imo, it would just be ===Ice Palace===. Looks nicer
So for minibosses (silver fish, spear boss), and their easier base version (blue fish, yellow monster) I'm thinking of this new thing to add to lead. Already added it to some drafts (blue fish, silver fish, spear boss), this is just the reason. Would go on its own line.
For the miniboss:
"It is the miniboss variant of the X that appears in Y (if it's one area) or "multiple areas".
For the base enemy
"The X appearing in the Y is the miniboss variant of the [Article title]."
Thoughts?
Definitely!
(For convienience) These are the enemies we haven't made drafts for yet
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Singing Cat
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Silent Cat
I did a page for the Yellow Flower.
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Yellow_flower
Now, I found two interesting things when doing this.
The yellow flower seen during the Island Board is considered to be the enemy one:
https://code.deltarune.wiki/ch3/gml_object_obj_b2d_firstencounter_step_0#L49-60
So when making the page, I went ahead and coupled the info in.
Now, the second one shows an error on the wiki's part. The purple flower is actually aqua:
spr_board_flower_aqua is seen on line 8.
https://code.deltarune.wiki/ch3/gml_object_obj_board_enemy_yellowflower_create_0
This is actually recorded on the wiki, but only in the base filename:
https://deltarune.wiki/w/File:Flower_overworld_purple.gif
So I'll be doing a page for the aqua flower now. It's clearer to me that these should be handled individually.
"It appears in the Island Board's ice palace and the City Board's manhole dungeon."
Isn't this a bit wordy? I feel the original style of "the Ice Palace and the manhole dungeon" is more succinct for the lead. My idea of mentioning that the Ice Palace is part of the Island Board was only for if the enemy appears in both: "The Island Board and its Ice Palace" and for the main story headings if it appears in both.
It's not too big of a deal, it is more detail, but imo old way is better. But I'll leave this up you; you're the main editor here for these Original Game drafts.
yeah just fix it lol my writing is largely just a stream of consciousness
Alright, more flowers.
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Aqua_flower
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Orange_flower
Sorry about the accidental reversion btw @PapyrusPikmin1997 I had the editor open to fix a stupid template mistake prior
There is cause to name the Orange flower the "alt flower" like the "alt lizard"
It is possible. Just my take though, I'm not a huge fan.
With lizard it works well. Yellow, Jumpy, Alt. All three have very unique labels.
For flower, it's a bit odd. Yellow, Aqua, Alt. Two colors, one alt, you see it's a bit strange.
If we want to follow filenames as much as possible it can be done though.
I guess it isn't too important, if someone wants to change it I wouldn't scream like a banshee or anything.
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Jumpy_lizard
https://deltarune.wiki/w/User:大佬233/Alt_lizard
Lizzers for the dark lord.