You’re the one who started talking about your brain for some reason
I said that it’s smaller than AI data centers and does not have the same impact and that it’s more worth having than AI
I just repeated myself now
Ohhhh, I am very ready to argue this.
Not sure I should, though. Do I want to spend my time on someone who's likely not going to give a single damn? Absolutely not.
Should I be arguing? No. We already have a big problem with arguments.
Okay, I'll argue. I'll go over every point I think needs to be covered.
Oh, brother, this is a load. NO. It does NOT take enough effort to create an A.I. prompt to be considered something other than low-quality. Just because you sit at a keyboard and type for 5-10 minutes, absolutely DOES NOT qualify you as being "high effort" or "high-quality." An A.I. — no, they don't deserve that word in this context. A clanker, trained off of stolen works, generated that for you, with minimal, absolutely MINIMAL input from you. Typing prompts does not qualify as anything good.
Short answer: Yesn't.
Long answer: It's complicated. If you use A.I. for anything other than assistance (i.e; if you can't think of something, use A.I. to give you INSPIRATION, NOT just copy-pasting it), you qualify for varying amounts of disrespect. If you actually straight up copy-paste something for something like, let's say a report, that's bad, because you are relying on the A.I. If you try to modify it to hide it being A.I, that's worse, as now you're trying to lie about using A.I. If you try and say, "Writing a prompt to get something good is difficult" no, it's fucking not, keyboard warrior! If you just use A.I. for, say, a recipe, though, that only you, yourself, use, and you don't try to publish it as your own, that's okay! You don't deserve hate for that.
Already covered.
Partially covered. A.I. steals content, and it's now in a process of enshittification from consuming its own content. It's the 2nd biggest problem with A.I. "artists."
Oh yeah, A.I. uses a crapton of power and water. Freshwater.
Absolutely. We don't want no bullshit A.I. slop.
Moving on to the responses to those.
So... You're saying, even if it's a 1/100 chance... sometimes typing, LITERAL TYPING is harder to do than painstakingly making each line right, each shade correct, sometimes having to start all the way over? What the actual fuck, man? Saying that spits in the face of all artists imaginable.
Some people don't want their work scraped to train a clanker. Unfortunately, there's no real opt-out option, even for copyrighted material.
Cars didn't immediately cause environmental damage either. But look at them now.
Or... we just keep the slop away.
I just find this funny as hell. Ever heard of a rhetorical question?
If you really want to make such a bold claim, do some research and ask around. If you haven't already. I wouldn't put it against you.
Exactly! Not everyone wants their content stolen by clankers, for clankers!
1: No way in hell two wikis and a forum cause that much damage.
2: Yes, you are correct. But your point is ridiculous and cherry-picked to make it sound better. A.I. centres take so much more than we do. Yes, we humans make up most of the environmental impact. But gone unchecked, A.I. could be devastating for the environment.
Exactly. Almost like they're intelligent enough to recognise how dumb everyone else's arguments are.
Your brain is an insanely complicated thing that's had millions of years to evolve to its current state. A.I. has only become large-scale recently. It's had time to become efficient and leave a small footprint.
Why would they call you useless? They haven't been bitchy, they've just brought up good counterpoints.
Is my point clear now? This is a stupid argument, and it's one of the few where I will arrogantly say that I am completely correct, with no possible counter-argument.
But provide criticism if you want. I'm open to it.
I'd love to put in my two cents here but I don't want to feed the argument
Good choice.
The thing is, you're not the one putting effort into those trials. An AI is. You're still doing the bare minimum of work.
Again, I STILL AGREE it is not comparable to genuine art. Drink cold water, man
Enderman probably meant it as a joke
bro lit the whole thread on fire
I get 4 responses and I've set the whole thread on fire, apparently.
No, I think they were serious. But I'll assume good faith here.
I need to think harder on this one. But quote me in whole next time.
The point here was that, even if it's a small chance, writing A.I. prompts will never be the same effort as actual art. I apologise if I was more toxic than I would've liked to be here, but I stand by what I said all the way. I do recognise that you agree that it's not as difficult, but still, it's never going to be as difficult as actual art. No matter what justifications you try to put forward. You yourself said in the post I was referring to that sometimes, typing prompts is comparable to the difficulty of actual art. So, now you're partially contradicting yourself, though only partially, as you for the most part agree that A.I. content is lower-effort.
My main problem of what you argue is that you're trying to say that A.I. """art""" takes any amount of reasonable effort. No. It doesn't. It takes more effort to look at alt-right Twitter for more than two seconds then it does to type A.I. prompts. It's harder to read a page of The Hobbit than it is to write A.I. prompts. (God, Tolkien's writing is goddamn dry.) You know what? It's harder to think of a good profile picture than it is to type A.I. prompts. It's so insanely easy to write A.I. prompts, even if it takes you 50 to get the correct picture you want.
A.I. is the lowest of low-effort. Let it remain disallowed. It absolutely should be considered entirely low-effort.
Give your final thoughts to me now, because I am leaving this conversation behind after that.
I can confirm real art is hard, as I suck balls at it.
Even digital art like MS Paint
Tenna/Tenna shading
We should probably go back on track from here.
I used the phrase "tenna of ten" to describe my irl friend's Tenna merch.
Human ingenuity will always outpower AI slop. It shouldn't matter what your skill level is. Make trash art!!
