I have a name idea for this leimotif

So you know the motif that appears in Hammer of Justice and Flower Man? well i think a good name for this motif would be “Defying Fate”, since Gerson and Flowery are both trying to or are defying fate.

Y34H F41R 3NOUGH

  • Old Man Deltarune exists
  • Fighting Old Man Deltarune
  • Old Man Deltarune telling Susie wise things
  • Old Man Deltarune killing a titan and honestly not subverting fate at all, because the roaring can't happen until after the flower king is trapped in asylum anyway.
  • Flowery Deltarune fights for his right to own land at the part where the lyrics say "way up high in the sky with the sun in his eyes. ain't it nice?"

I shall dub it "The Wiseguy Motif"

thats cool :3 i still like mine tho

The motifs in Flower Man and Hammer of Justice are not the same. They share the first couple notes and are somewhat similar structurally, but they're not the same.

That literally says gerson :gerson: :gersonlaugh:

I mean I hate to burst your bubble but like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPRIJHRV1Mw

Yeah, they're not the same.

cuz i screenshotted it lol

so? a motif can still be in a song even if its modified. like gerson’s theme

it's deconfirmed though

deconfirmed?

You better hide this before someone calls Vexodus

wait who’s that qwq

yeah i mean

this isnt in the song

sorry but

its not in the song

lemme see if i can find the video...

(UPLOADED BY VEXODUS FIRST BTW) The Hope Motif Doesn't Exist (Deltarune) - YouTube

oh okie im stupid lol

nah man youre good

i do admit, to the naked ear (that sounds so weird) it sounds like it

yeah

you better hope nobody takes that...outside of a context...