Heya

I'm Vid or Wasp, take your pick. Its/its, they/them, or ey/em.

I like Deltarune a good amount, but I have played through Undertale a good amount myself a long while back (I'm an evil person who has done like a ton of neutral routes specifically to see the dialogue from there. I think the neutral stuff is underdiscussed In General).

All that being said, I'm the forgetting forgetter, so I regularly have to cross-reference my own bad memory with dialogue dumps, so expect a lot of me citing those directly, and it's not only possible or likely that I may forget important things.

My personal favorite characters are Noelle and Alvin, but to be honest I like most characters, so this isn't speaking to much.

I am someone who thinks about Miss Mizzle and Shuttah a lot, especially in relation to Chapter 5.

Generally speaking I actually care primarily about the Thematic ramifications of some of the like, funny haha deep lore stuff? I have bad opinions about what the funny cats mean, and I'm actually really worried about Hands as a direct result of what I think the cats are both from an in-universe perspective and thematic perspective.

I like making bad theories on purpose that make people want to bite me, but I sandwich them between stuff I actually legitimately believe because I think that's the funniest way to do that.

Oh also: I don't care that much about Weird route outside of the stuff that got confirmed about Noelle via it. I am far more interested in the actual like. main routing theory stuff.

OH Chapter 5 I really really like Blue, Orange, and Flowery, and most of my posts/discussion on Chapter 5 stuff is probably going to be related to those 3.

Anything else I could say here feels like I'd be coming out of the gate swinging at people re: my general headcanon milleu and aggro on purpose but I will be so kind and sweet...

Look at this Ralsei I drew a good couple years ago instead. I would probably draw them differently now, we shall see.

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That's all thanks.

Wait some people actually use it/its pronouns? I learned something new today!

hello!!

cool art!!

I like floradinn.

Yes! :3 Learning is fun and good to do. Hello!

whats ey/em pronouns? :0

Hello! I also like Floradinn!!! All of the chapter 5 enemy designs are super fun. Also like the specific train conductor you're using as an icon from the train room, super cool.

thank you! I thought they were the coolest one, and I totally agree!! the chapter 5 designs are really cool!!

They're a neopronoun/Spivak pronoun! I use the version put forth by Elverson, and you can find info on the history of the set on wikipedia, which does a pretty okay job explaining.

It is a gender neutral pronoun set that I'm fond of, but I know the set is sometimes tricky for people, thus the it/its and they/them as options as well in my intro. :kriswiggle:

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wow, that sounds really interesting!! I didn’t know there were such unique pronouns and identities! (well like, i know some stuff but I’m still pretty new to the lgbtq+ community yknow?)

TO: hello i am tomeh, i really like homestuck end of story

Hello tomeh! Nice to meet you!!

TO: yeah i also like metal gear, smash bros, and some other stuff

Nice!

I am realizing I completely forgot to add other stuff I'm into other than Deltarune and Undertale uhh

I like Kingdom Hearts, Loop Hero, In Stars and Time, Tales series of games, and Harvestella, and have an extremely casual to surface level knowledge of SCP stuff and web horror stuff.

I also like specbio stuff in theory, but I'm not necessarily good at those things.

In a similar tone of 'like them, not good at them', I really like a lot of 'retro' games but that doesn't mean I'm good at them. Light Crusader+Landstalker and Shining In The Dark is fun as is Petz Catz/Dogz, and I fully admit that I got taken offguard by spamton sweepstakes stuff and the mainline game namedropping Petz and how there really is like, an entire spinoff RPG game that I used to play a lot...

TO: hey its the game rc likes

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ayyyy lesgo

we got a bunch of kingdom hearters here (not me sadly)

"spivak"?
huh, never heard of that before
ey/em seems interesting
might take a bit of time adjusting for me though... :ralsplat:

why does this art style look familiar
I might've seen something similar in WoF's lore book...

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:mysteryman: :zzz:

ayo Shuttah?
I thought about them quite a bit too when I started out here
even made a meme/reaction image:

I've got terrible memory, but only with the things I actually need to remember...

sounds like you paid quite a bit of attention to some areas the rest of us maybe overlooked
hope you stay here!

Hello!

You don't have to do this, but give me your take on

The song or the wing ding wahoo man himself? I will assume the latter.

Generally speaking the things you have to know about my Current (this is a key operating word here because I change my mind on funny G man all the time) opinion on Gaster amounts to:

-I don't know a good word to fully explain this, but despite the likely stuff with Onion, I actually don't think Gaster is Inherently a fully antagonistic force, and I think Gaster-as-gamedev/game modder/rewrite maker both work in interesting ways with the parallels he has to Deltarune Gerson as an author who was swallowed by their creations. Deltarune, despite what many think, is an RPG that is /heavily/ informed by well... other RPGs.

Even within games which don't fall into the 'fight a villain who claims to be a god' format, there are enough instances of meeting a character who is in some way related to creation of a world that I think people assuming funny dings man wouldn't fit into Deltarune need to come back after they've played more rpgs.

The kitties are dual-purpose in the narrative : they're bugfixers/QA tester-adjacent (I think is what they normally are if you're not doing Egg stuff), but the fact they are good at finding 'protein' and are also described as pursuing a target until they get bored all feels also like they're granular lore fans who dig super deep into code to find stuff. Lorehead who also QAs is a frightening concept but we proceed.

I think the Big Thing that is most important to talking about Gaster is the 'MY DELTARUNE' line as it directly related to how The Prophecy is retold multiple times even within Deltarune itself!

If you believe he's the evil joker or whatever, Gaster saying 'My Deltarune' can have the implication that His View of what the end of The Prophecy should be is the only one that matters, or at the very least the way Deltarune as the main route plays out 'should' end a certain way. It's 'his'. His version of the story.

Note how I'm not saying 'the 'one ending' of Deltarune is the Original Intended Prophecy's ending'. This is because I think Gaster's Creation is less 'the entirety of Deltarune's world' so much as 'This Specific Interpretation of Deltarune's world'.

He's not the original world/setting's dev... he's a demiurge, and he's a modder at that... [gaster voice] Here's my deltaswap, btw

I'm going to toss the save file copying stuff in here, but I will also say that 'Deltarune's setting is a copy/reinterpretation of something before timelinewise' is kind of given evidence via Forgotten Man stuff, but I also think if we take 'copies are monochrome' at face value...

Gaster has taken his time to 'color it in', metaphorically. He likes the characters. He describes Kris, Noelle, and Susie as being 'wonderful'. :3

With this in mind, I for one personally would kind of argue AGAINST 'evil Gaster who only cares about his interpretation of the story' due to just how excited the guy gets when we do stuff like try and beat The Knight while missing the mantle, get no achievements in the playstation version, etc, but I do think that if Gaster expects anyone within the narrative to alter the prophecy, he's expecting it to happen as A Retelling After The Final Tragedy comes to pass, and not to be a divergence from the getgo (but well. He's excited to see it if it were to happen!) . Lord of The Hammer Cuts off in its final stages in a way that I think almost implies a 'repeated attempts to make the prophecy something kinder that have failed, and likely failed around whatever the sixth 'chapter' is in each thing' thing.

I also generally operate under the premise that as a result of this and the layers of stuff going on that theories that over-emphasize 'escapism bad' plotpoints don't work super well because of all of this; from the start, I think that the Light World being 'more real' than the Dark Worlds is a false assumption to begin with, to the point that I think the 'no Lightner merch' rule is going to get lifted at some point after the game finishes to Make A Point.

(I also think there /is/ supposed to be some weirdness about how dark worlds operate a la the like, meta layer of umineko, which I'm almost certain Toby Fox has played with how Aqua is written as well as the continued motifs of Ralsei furniture stuff, etc etc)

Also, apologies if what I just said is a bunch of words that barely mean anything, I have problems being coherent re: Gaster thoughts because I DO NOT actually have a fully good guess about what the end of Deltarune is going to be like.

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Interesting two things I thought of while reading this were firstly that, well, I certainly don't see Wingman as a villain (I doubt other people do, but it's a possibility). He seems to be quite neutral, likely because he can't be hurt by anything in-game from his position.
But also...

...This made me smirk.
(We had a user a while ago who was convinced the demiurge was in deltarune and almost nobody could even understand the words they said lol)