# Why can't dess be the knight? **URL:** \ **Category:** Deltarune Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715 "2026-08-09T21:23:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/81 "2026-08-10T14:41:26Z")
I like the concept that the Knight is a titan that takes after Dess in some ways (like the bat or the horns) because of the will of the person that summoned them (maybe carol) imprinting their memories of dess on the titan ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:44pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/82 "2026-08-10T14:44:43Z")
There was no time for Kris to open a Dark Fountain in Chapter 4 while they were in Noelle's house, plus at the end of Chapter 5 the Knight is pretty much show to open its own Dark Fountain . It's true there's a plausibility Chapter 1 and 2's fountains could've been opened by Kris, but it feels unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/83 "2026-08-10T14:47:25Z")
I think personally that the chapter 1 and 2 fountains were made by the Knight, 3 is obviously made by Kris, I don't know about 4, and I know it's basically implied Kris made the chapter 5 dark fountain, which is weird to me because the whole place seems very much like a dark world asgore made ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:47pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/84 "2026-08-10T14:47:50Z")
i think chapter 1's was kris because I think they opens one every other day day before school starts: Kris After Kris goes to sleep, end of chapter 1: Knight chapter 3: Kris Chapter 4: Knight Chapter 5 kris :friend: ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/85 "2026-08-10T14:48:13Z")
_ **HE???!** _ ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/86 "2026-08-10T14:48:28Z")
oopsies I'll fix it :friend: ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:48pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/87 "2026-08-10T14:48:50Z")
my bad for overreacting lol ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/88 "2026-08-10T14:49:10Z")
You're fine, :friend: 👍 ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/89 "2026-08-10T14:49:23Z")
> [@MidKnight](#): > > i think chapter 1's was kris because I think he opens one every other day > he Guess 70 citations on the wiki aren't enough huh ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/90 "2026-08-10T14:49:38Z")
HONEST MISTAKE ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/91 "2026-08-10T14:51:10Z")
nah don't sorry I can see it was a mistake although with that slip I'm sorry to tell you that you aren't beating the larper allegations ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/92 "2026-08-10T14:51:43Z")
I agree though i think we shouldn't put people down for being new ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:52pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/93 "2026-08-10T14:52:23Z")
I didn't know about homestuck until yesterday ![Screenshot 2026-04-08 6.50.06 PM](https://undertale.wiki/d/uploads/default/original/2X/f/ffe6f1e68a94969701ce403ad22ec4a2ccbe321b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/94 "2026-08-10T14:53:17Z")
WHy is no one talking about my titan knightan theaory ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/95 "2026-08-10T14:53:36Z")
it is kinda booty cheeks ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/96 "2026-08-10T14:54:12Z")
If the knight is a titan then they should evaporate upon entering the light world :friend: ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/97 "2026-08-10T14:54:33Z")
ok ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/98 "2026-08-10T14:55:15Z")
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**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:55pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/99 "2026-08-10T14:55:44Z")
i hope you know that's actually hurtful to me to take the one creative idea I've ever had about a deltarune theoy and tear it down without even offering why it's bad or what the flaws to it are ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:56pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/100 "2026-08-10T14:56:01Z")
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