# Why can't dess be the knight? **URL:** \ **Category:** Deltarune Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715 "2026-08-09T21:23:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MarkKrutak](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/markkrutak/32/1598_2.png) [@MarkKrutak](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MarkKrutak)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 6:21am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/61 "2026-08-10T06:21:59Z")
My personal opinion on this is that Dess' consciousness is stuck in the code (that's why she views herself just as a collection of memories) while the body got stretched and morphed using Gaster bs and is being piloted by someone else. Oh, and a small fragment of her consciousness still remains as that explains the Knight's aurafarming and behaving as something more than just a puppet. I think that everything aligns great. But honestly I don't really care about the Knight's identity, as long as the reveal is cool and shocking. ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/62 "2026-08-10T06:23:28Z")
I think she's under the lake. ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 9:35am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/63 "2026-08-10T09:35:53Z")
Dess Suicides Theroy ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/64 "2026-08-10T11:17:57Z")
Serious answer: The whole thing with Dess is that she's trapped in the code. For her to also be the knight there needs lots of convoluted contraptions that don't really match up, like the darkness-piloted body theory which forgets that only a lightner can open a Dark Fountain, and a souless corpse piloted by darkness wouldn't count as a lightner. Funny answer: Because Dess isn't Papyrus :friend: ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:18am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/65 "2026-08-10T11:18:59Z")
and how do you know shes in the code? ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/66 "2026-08-10T11:19:44Z")
Imagine being a Deltarune fan and not know who Hussie is. That's like, Undertale 101 ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:20am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/67 "2026-08-10T11:20:58Z")
[https://deltarune.wiki/w/UNUSED](https://deltarune.wiki/w/UNUSED) ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:21am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/68 "2026-08-10T11:21:45Z")
still hasnt proved it for me care to explain? ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 11:22am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/69 "2026-08-10T11:22:18Z")
it could be **anyone** ---
**Author:** ![Cuteturtle2](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/cuteturtle2/32/15962_2.png) [@Cuteturtle2](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Cuteturtle2)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/70 "2026-08-10T12:32:54Z")
No that’s Togore, since Togore somehow existed in an Andrew hussie comic. ---
**Author:** ![DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/danipine3/32/2087_2.png) [@DaniPine3](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaniPine3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/71 "2026-08-10T12:43:07Z")
Oh god you're right it did Why did you have to remind me of this I could've stayed on blissful ignorance, but no... :soppingwet: ---
**Author:** ![Apo1l0coolkid](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/apo1l0coolkid/32/25468_2.png) [@Apo1l0coolkid](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Apo1l0coolkid)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 12:58pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/72 "2026-08-10T12:58:05Z")
always bet on togore knight /j ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 12:58pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/73 "2026-08-10T12:58:34Z")
Exactly :friend: 👍 ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/74 "2026-08-10T14:00:41Z")
I've never (and never will) read Homestuck, am I a larper? ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:08pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/75 "2026-08-10T14:08:33Z")
The only characters who on screen have opened Dark Fountains are Susie and Kris Kris is working with the Knight Kris probably could've opened all Dark Fountains Chapter 1 was probably opened before the SOUL got control of Kris Chapter 2 was probably opened while Kris ate the pie in Chapter 1 Chapter 4 could've been opened during the time Kris opened Cyber World in a normally unused room that the Knight could open the door to when it was time for Chapter 4's Dark World ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/76 "2026-08-10T14:09:31Z")
No, Chester Holiday is the Knight ---
**Author:** ![DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/deltafant/32/18554_2.png) [@DeltaFanT](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DeltaFanT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/77 "2026-08-10T14:10:01Z")
didnt expect the thread to get serious now lol 😭 ---
**Author:** ![Apo1l0coolkid](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/apo1l0coolkid/32/25468_2.png) [@Apo1l0coolkid](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Apo1l0coolkid)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/78 "2026-08-10T14:10:06Z")
lmao ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:39pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/79 "2026-08-10T14:39:28Z")
I don't know who is the knight and I've lowkey given up theorizing ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715/80 "2026-08-10T14:40:27Z")
But I just wanted to say that I stan Titan Knight [Previous page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715.md?page=3) [Next page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/why-cant-dess-be-the-knight/7715.md?page=5)