alright so i might be looking too much into this because im transgender myself (not nonbinary but they are our siblings and nonbinary people are under the trans umbrella so i think i can talk about it) but in the deltarune wiki, its specified that the only "proper" time ralsei was refered to with they/them is in her dark thorns title, but pronouns like this arent specified anywhere else?? we already have the citation im not sure why we needed to specify this in the text.
a few examples below
heres some examples ive gotten from various basic enemies and cowboy mike.
meanwhile,
here its specifically specified ralsei mainly used he/him and she was referred to with they/them in her dark vine title, despite ralsei who has the dark vine title and ralsei regularstyle are the same exact character.
the only times ive seen those brackets be used in my skimming is when its refering to two or more different characters that use the same page, but those are also.. different characters...
im probably reading too much into this, but it just feels odd to me. is this a regular occurance and is used on other characters in the wiki, or is there a proper reason for this specification?
hi!! thanks for your reply, but thats not what i asked. i get that she was referred to with he/him for most of the game, i'm asking why theres a clarification in brackets that her going by they/them is used in the dark vine title when other characters pronouns that get used once arent clarified. i hope this helps you understand my post better
also, what do you mean by "direct and regular"? do you mean how thats what she regularly uses? why add that to your reply? hope that doesnt come off as condescending :]
...and given that two people have brought it up now, we really should hurry up with applying that to more pages. it looks super weird and crappy that ralsei's the only one with that!!
This entire post is like a stroke
you’re questioning the one time they them listing of Ralsei’s pronouns while referring to him as a she
I think if I’m following I agree with your statement, as it’s likely just using gender neutral pronouns but you have the screenshot of the he him and they them pronouns for Ralsei and then don’t use either of those
Regardless one of the first saves in the game calls him a fluffy boy so I don’t know what we’re doing here man
I feel like dark vine is way over analyzed
It’s probably a typo
Well
It’s not even a typo
If someone refers to me using the word they once, am I nonbinary
Yet almost all other characters that "don't know" each other use the correct pronouns on sight
For instance, take Susie first seeing Lancer in the cliffs in ch1
She called him he
It's the Tricky Tony Pronoun Transmission Force and it is insurmountable
i use she/her pronouns for ralsei as i headcanon her as transfem, and im pointing out how nowhere else in the wiki clarifies where pronouns are used unless they are two different characters, but it does in ralsei's page.
sorry that the post is unclear, i have adhd and it makes me go back on my statements alot. i am working on it!! i am using she/her for ralsei since i headcanon her as transfem, but it its revealed that the game is going in the direction of ralsei being nonbinary in later chapters i will happily refer to her with they/them!!
Could you possibly put this in your profile description just to make it easier to remember you are referring to Ralsei with she/her for future reference?
AUGUGHHHH YOU GET ME yesyesyes. i get that its technically not a viable source because asgore did the same thing to alphys and it could just be a character trait, but all im hearing is that alphys uses she/they