# The NEO Body was made by December/The Knight **URL:** \ **Category:** Deltarune Discussion\ **Tags:** mettaton, swatch, dess\_holiday, seam\ **Created:** [April 27, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438 "2026-04-27T20:19:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/144 "2026-05-08T06:23:06Z")
> [@WizardofTheEastCoast](#): > > because of flowey that papyrus is so confident, art thy shaw ---
**Author:** ![Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/timpaw21/32/15938_2.png) [@Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Timpaw21)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:10pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/145 "2026-05-08T12:10:00Z")
Yes. That is literally stated in-game. Maybe you'd know if you # _ **PLAYED IT** _ ---
**Author:** ![HazyCozmos](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/hazycozmos/32/29636_2.png) [@HazyCozmos](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HazyCozmos)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:12pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/146 "2026-05-08T12:12:52Z")
> [@Timpaw21](#): > > started 🚨MINOR SPELLING MISTAKE​🚨 ---
**Author:** ![Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/timpaw21/32/15938_2.png) [@Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Timpaw21)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/147 "2026-05-08T12:18:58Z")
> [@sans](#): > > have you ever heard of a talking flower? > so you know all about it. [Yes] > i'll tell you, then. [No] > the echo flower. > they're all over the marsh. > say something to them, and they'll repeat it over and over... > what about it? > well, **papyrus told me something interesting the other day.** > **sometimes, when no one else is around...** > **a flower appears and whispers things to him.** > **flattery... advice... encouragement...** > **... predictions.** > weird, huh? > someone must be using an echo flower to play a trick on him. > keep an eye out, ok? — sans, at Grillby's ---
**Author:** ![Volnar\_The\_Unforgiving](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/volnar_the_unforgiving/32/850_2.png) [@Volnar\_The\_Unforgiving](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Volnar_The_Unforgiving)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/148 "2026-05-08T12:37:44Z")
Flowey likes using Papyrus and messing with him Nowhere does it say Flowey created Papyrus's personality? ---
**Author:** ![HazyCozmos](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/hazycozmos/32/29636_2.png) [@HazyCozmos](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HazyCozmos)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/149 "2026-05-08T12:43:39Z")
We may dissagree > [@Timpaw21](#): > > That is literally stated in-game. But we can all agree that @Palladium_standard should > [@Timpaw21](#): > > PLAY IT ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/150 "2026-05-09T11:59:04Z")
Exactly đź‘Ť ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/151 "2026-05-09T11:59:31Z")
Play? _Play?!_ Play the colourful creature reference ---
**Author:** ![DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DracoBaltoy_II)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/152 "2026-05-12T21:30:51Z")
Ah yes, because Dess has any relations to NEO at all, and would design a suit eactly like Mettaton NEO's suit. ---
**Author:** ![FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/fotodecarro/32/7363_2.png) [@FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/FotoDeCarro)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 9:46pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/153 "2026-05-12T21:46:36Z")
Like many before in this thread, you're not arguing against anything I said and also don't give me anything to argue against. Still, there is something unrelated I wanted to say. The body is never called the "NEO Body" anywhere in the game, it's always called "the robot" or "the old machine". The only association to the word NEO is Spamton calling himself "NEO", and at that point you have to say Queen and Tenna are Mettaton too because they also say the word "NEO". ![image](https://undertale.wiki/d/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f71f30150aff3be9529d3edcce9a112191f0fa9f.jpeg) Hell, even Jevil [calls his final attack "NEO"](https://deltarune.wiki/w/Jevil#:~:text=THE%20TRUE%20AND%20NEO%20CHAOS). Way before chapter 2 released. ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/154 "2026-05-12T22:09:22Z")
Interesting ---
**Author:** ![DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DracoBaltoy_II)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:07am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/155 "2026-05-13T00:07:35Z")
1. Bad examples. All three of those characters are explicitly referring to a separate object other than themselves. (And at least they're all related to Spamton in some way) 2. You still haven't addressed why it's designed after Mettaton NEO if it was made by a completely unrelated character. ---
**Author:** ![FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/fotodecarro/32/7363_2.png) [@FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/FotoDeCarro)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:24am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/156 "2026-05-13T00:24:09Z")
> [@DracoBaltoy\_II](#): > > You still haven't addressed why it's designed after Mettaton NEO if it was made by a completely unrelated character. What is this argument? Is Ralsei Asriel? Is Mettaton from Deltarune supposed to remember Undertale? The NEO form wasn't even his dream body, that was EX. And it wasn't him who made it, that was Alphys. Why would Mettaton _from Deltarune_ want to transition to a killing machine? [Honk Song](https://youtu.be/LDn_MUqlYUA?si=I8i7E6lpecuNVI-D&t=56) has metal crusher. Is literally every car in hometown Mettaton? ---
**Author:** ![KirbyFan2k](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/kirbyfan2k/32/15710_2.png) [@KirbyFan2k](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/KirbyFan2k)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:30am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/157 "2026-05-13T00:30:59Z")
Yes ---
**Author:** ![ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/ravingcybernetic/32/11444_2.png) [@ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/ravingCybernetic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/158 "2026-05-13T00:40:21Z")
RC: omg shut up it doesn't matter who made the body ---
**Author:** ![FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/fotodecarro/32/7363_2.png) [@FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/FotoDeCarro)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/159 "2026-05-13T00:48:19Z")
The problem is: it does. We're explicitly told the shadow crystal was in the body, not with Spamton. In chapter 4 we learn the crystals "grow" from the tears of a "fallen star". The origin of the shadow crystals is important, so learning exactly who made the body is also important to understand why the crystal was there in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/ravingcybernetic/32/11444_2.png) [@ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/ravingCybernetic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 1:16am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/160 "2026-05-13T01:16:00Z")
> [@FotoDeCarro](#): > > Is Ralsei Asriel? RC: this is a terrible comparison. these are two completely separate characters. this is more akin to toriel still wanting to be a teacher or asgore still watering flowers. Mettaton in this world may be happstablook but that doesn't mean he doesn't still desire to be mettaton. > [@FotoDeCarro](#): > > The NEO form wasn't even his dream body, that was EX. RC: I'd argue the neo and ex forms are more like a change of clothes ---
**Author:** ![FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/fotodecarro/32/7363_2.png) [@FotoDeCarro](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/FotoDeCarro)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 1:38am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/161 "2026-05-13T01:38:54Z")
> [@ravingCybernetic](#): > > this is a terrible comparison. these are two completely separate characters. this is more akin to toriel still wanting to be a teacher or asgore still watering flowers. And monster teen doesn't care about Undyne, Catty and Bratty aren't friends, Asriel isn't the Angel, Chara isn't here. With all due respect, I don't think I want to argue anymore. There's more I could say, like the [PuppetScarf being made of Guitar Strings](https://deltarune.wiki/w/PuppetScarf#:~:text=%28Feels%20like%20guitar%20strings%2E%2E%2E%29), Spamton saying the body was "[designed by the classics you'd come to expect](https://deltarune.wiki/w/Spamton#:~:text=%5B%5BDesigned%20BY%20The%20Classics%20You%27ve%20Come%20To%20Expect%21%20%28C%291997%5D%5D)" to Kris which implies they know who made it, how Spamton seems to [randomly connect](https://deltarune.wiki/w/Spamton#:~:text=%2E%2E%2E%20can%20anyone%20hear%20me%3F%20Help%2E%2E%2E)to [UNUSED during dialogue](https://deltarune.wiki/w/UNUSED#:~:text=Someone%21%3F%20Anyone%21%3F%20Can%20anyone%20hear%20me%21%3F). But I don't think anyone actually cares, at this point I don't I do either, there's no point to coming up with evidence for stuff if someone can just say "no" and change subject, then I have to argue against something different again. You won, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 5:12am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/162 "2026-05-13T05:12:41Z")
Yes ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/29659_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 5:13am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-neo-body-was-made-by-december-the-knight/4438/163 "2026-05-13T05:13:33Z")
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