# The King has a piece flaking off of him (I think) **URL:** \ **Category:** Deltarune Discussion\ **Created:** [September 7, 2026, 4:45am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860 "2026-09-07T04:45:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/timpaw21/32/15938_2.png) [@Timpaw21](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Timpaw21)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 8:29pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/21 "2026-09-07T20:29:53Z")
> [@Invidiatechdemo](#): > > "COOL MANTLE BRO." HE SAID WHAT _watches the clip_ ... **HE SAID WHAT** ---
**Author:** ![Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/invidiatechdemo/32/20100_2.png) [@Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Invidiatechdemo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 9:06pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/22 "2026-09-07T21:06:33Z")
Burdened by knowledge (watched anniversary streams) \<-:krisdance: ---
**Author:** ![Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/invidiatechdemo/32/20100_2.png) [@Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Invidiatechdemo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/23 "2026-09-07T21:09:09Z")
The color on hero\_sword's hair and mantle!tenna's sprites are also drastically different from the non-mantle dark world designs of the characters they represent. That means very little, imo. ---
**Author:** ![Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/invidiatechdemo/32/20100_2.png) [@Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Invidiatechdemo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/24 "2026-09-07T21:11:15Z")
Would you believe me if I said this exact topic came up in the same anniversary as 'cool mantle bro' was said as a joke. :gersonlaugh: ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/25 "2026-09-07T21:11:51Z")
FU(N) :friend: :boom: ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 1:27am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/26 "2026-09-08T01:27:01Z")
> [@Echoescreates](#): > > got ripped (that's the mouth in his stomach) That's his scar. Every Spade person has Bellymouthes. ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 1:27am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/27 "2026-09-08T01:27:14Z")
Wait- Someone already said it ---
**Author:** ![CYBERTALE](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/cybertale/32/18002_2.png) [@CYBERTALE](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/CYBERTALE)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 4:04pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/28 "2026-09-08T16:04:33Z")
I don't see how it couldn't be that you're right (I like this theory) and that that is the shadow mantle. Could be that it got torn off before, put with seam (the other broken thing) then glued back later on. Doesn't explain why the knight deals less against it though. ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/29 "2026-09-08T16:24:04Z")
What if the Mantle wasn't with Seam since Ch. 1 and was possessing King to make him angry? In-game, it says the Dark Fountain made him a bit tyrannical, but every other Darkner in every other Chapter doesn't get affected the minimum by a Dark Fountain in vicinity, so what if ERAM was possessing King and that Mantle was his True/Non-Zelda form? ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/30 "2026-09-08T16:24:18Z")
someone also said this, no? ---
**Author:** ![WDAxolotl](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/wdaxolotl/32/23158_2.png) [@WDAxolotl](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/WDAxolotl)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/31 "2026-09-08T18:03:25Z")
harbinger migth be on something ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 6:04pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/32 "2026-09-08T18:04:14Z")
onto something ❌ on something ✅ ---
**Author:** ![DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DracoBaltoy_II)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/33 "2026-09-08T19:36:22Z")
Toby calls it a mantle, so it's obviously intended to be one. ---
**Author:** ![MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/midknight/32/28633_2.png) [@MidKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/MidKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/34 "2026-09-08T19:36:35Z")
Ok so what if, The shadow mantle is a flake of king, but is also the shadow mantle from Eram, and king's broken dream of living in harmony with the lightners, gave it shadow crystal like properties, Making it stronger, and better at protecting from dark attacks, due to it itself being dark. :friend: ---
**Author:** ![Cuteturtle2](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/cuteturtle2/32/15962_2.png) [@Cuteturtle2](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Cuteturtle2)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/35 "2026-09-08T19:37:37Z")
ERAM is most likely the Someone, so most likely They The M. Remember that kids. ![kris-pronouns-deltarune](https://undertale.wiki/d/uploads/default/original/3X/9/f/9fe3e29fe7dc542cb77a6e88126251be992a96f8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/invidiatechdemo/32/20100_2.png) [@Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Invidiatechdemo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/36 "2026-09-08T19:37:44Z")
In the 6th Anniversary stream, Toby Fox calls it a mantle after it flies away. it's a mantle. ---
**Author:** ![DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DracoBaltoy\_II](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DracoBaltoy_II)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/37 "2026-09-08T19:39:01Z")
I personally buy the fat that it's the Shadowmantle. Seam says they were gonna give it to you, meaning they had to have had it on them to sell. Taken they're a Chapter One darkner, that'd mean the mantle is from Card Kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/38 "2026-09-08T19:39:27Z")
You don't know what a mantle is, do you? ---
**Author:** ![EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/evilandhomophobicknight/32/25062_2.png) [@EvilandHomophobicKnight](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/EvilandHomophobicKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/39 "2026-09-08T19:43:29Z")
Okay actually it might be a cloak as opposed to a cape ---
**Author:** ![Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/invidiatechdemo/32/20100_2.png) [@Invidiatechdemo](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Invidiatechdemo)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860/40 "2026-09-08T19:44:14Z")
... which is synonymous with mantle. ![image](https://undertale.wiki/d/uploads/default/original/3X/8/f/8fb8ed618b66185bd0d92ffc14475025b4b9b6cb.png) [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mantle](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mantle) [Previous page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860.md?page=1) [Next page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/the-king-has-a-piece-flaking-off-of-him-i-think/8860.md?page=3)