SAVE Point Theory

Have anyone ever noted how SAVE Points flavor text apparently try to (succesfully) not talk about ”Determination”?

When there is no theme to talk about and it still have flavor text, it always says “A Power is shining within you.”

HMMMMMMMMMMM

:krisdance: :susiedance: :ralseidance:

Coincidence? Nah I just think Toby's trying not to say Determination or else the theorists will go batshite crazy all making theories.

if toby put determination, we would all revert back into our primal form, of which there are 3 of. Theorists, who make batshit theories (like the 67 theory) the memers and the people who leave

SIX SEVENNNNNNNNN

But i think it should be more chamative making Kris not having DETERMINATION, because i noted this, but i probably wouldn’t if Toby :dogdance: put it. I actually think it’s impressive that no one theorized about this instead of Kris having DETERMINATION, since it’s strange someone that apparently don’t have such thing being capable of SAVEing. Also, anyone noted how Kris is the only human in hometown, and being able to SAVE? Just like Frisk is the only human in a Monster-populated Underground, Kris is the only human in a Monster-populated neighborhood. And the two can SAVE... Interesting... Very Very Interesting...

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Look, man, the "Will" used to open fountains IS Determination, but Toby doesn't CALL it that so that the theorists and fandom don't go absolutely ballistic (because they would)

The will to open fountains is explicitly "determination":


So this:

Is actually impossible, because they opened the TV World fountain.

So is the SOUL that don’t have DETERMINATION, but Kris SAVEs in their name only to be polite with them???

Or Kris have DETERMINATION, but the SAVE points in Delta Rune/Deltarune are manifestations of something else? The Deltarune SAVE points are white, while the Undertale ones are yellow, so maybe in this Timeline it’s something else that gives you this power??

The power to SAVE... The power to reshape the world.

(Asriel certainly don’t looks like this in Deltarune)

(maybe without the: robe, shoulder pauldrons, floating, black marks on the face, any etc that is Undertale exclusive)

(but not the Heart Locket)

If they are the only human in Hometown, then they’d be the most determined.

But there is two things equal in DETERMINATION to the average human(in hometown):

Kris :krisdance:

and the SOUL♥️

Just popped in my head: is the player a second SOUL or is Kris SOULsless?

Or is the SOUL Kris’s but the player is able to manipulate it?

Well, I’d say the reason they can save (and we can save over it) is because when we're on the credits sequence (aswell as Don’t Forget) they can save.

They could save because we, the SOUL, are not present.

Kris becomes the most determined human.

Oh

That makes sense

But then why the SAVE still is SAVEd in our name when we use the next SAVE Point in the start of specific chapter?

I can't exactly tell what you're trying to say.

Could you please restate that?

When you SAVE in the first SAVE of any chapter, it is in the name of the player

You were wanting to say that Kris SAVEs during the time the SOUL is out, right? Like, in occasions like Noelle’s House, these specific moments in the bedroom at night, etc.

That is what I claim, as during that time we wouldn't be there to SAVE over them.

Okay now answer this☝️ please

When you open up Chapter 4 with only data for 1-3, do you see Kris' name?

If you don't, then my theory is dead

If you do, then my theory is alive

Hmmm

I’ll start a file from nothing in ch. 2

The i’ll see

And...

We’ll talk about this later. . .

The determination in Deltarune by now has only been mentioned by Queen. Of all Darkners beside Ralsei she somehow knows Darkners lack determination.

GUESS WHY? BECAUSE DETERMINATION IS THE POWER TO MAKE YOUR CHOICES MATTER AND IN THE PROPHECY IT'S WRITTEN THAT YOUR CHOICES DON'T MATTER SO THE GAME IS TRYING TO GASLIGHT US INTO IT!!

And we AAAAAAREE SURE AS [HEAVEN] going to make our choices matter so the determination will be mentioned more as the story progresses.