# I'm gonna say something crazy **URL:** \ **Category:** Undertale Discussion\ **Created:** [April 14, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214 "2026-04-14T15:07:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 3:07pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/1 "2026-04-14T15:07:24Z")
Undertale's boss themes are better than Deltarune's. I'm reserving full judgement until we have all the chapters completed. I mean, Deltarune's soundtrack is way better in quality than Undertale's. Toby's gotten better as a composer, and it shows. But there's something about listening to Finale or Battle against a true hero that I just don't get from Hammer of Justice or Black Knife or whatever. Again, the really good songs are almost always the ending ones. So this might change once we get all the chapters and their soundtracks. ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/2 "2026-04-14T17:08:00Z")
> [@Echoescreates](#): > > Again, the really good songs are almost always the ending ones. So this might change once we get all the chapters and their soundtracks. "PENUMBRA PHANTASM" /j I haven't even listened the song Also Toby doesn't even own the rights ---
**Author:** ![DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/dapixl2000/32/2069_2.png) [@DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaPixl2000)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:32am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/3 "2026-04-15T01:32:53Z")
And Toby also said the penumbra phantasm is unfortunately not getting in, as the creator of one of the motifs it used sadly passed away, so he’s not using it. ---
**Author:** ![DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/dapixl2000/32/2069_2.png) [@DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaPixl2000)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/4 "2026-04-15T01:33:31Z")
Also, I kinda feel like tv time proves this whole post wrong imo ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:51am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/5 "2026-04-15T04:51:05Z")
> [@Echoescreates](#): > > But there's something about listening to Finale or Battle against a true hero that I just don't get from Hammer of Justice or Black Knife or whatever. uhh why'd you put HoJ in there as an example ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:51am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/6 "2026-04-15T04:51:18Z")
Fair opinion though ---
**Author:** ![Elaboratescanner04](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/elaboratescanner04/32/19913_2.png) [@Elaboratescanner04](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Elaboratescanner04)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:03pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/7 "2026-04-15T12:03:16Z")
You have alerted the horde /jk ---
**Author:** ![ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/ravingcybernetic/32/11444_2.png) [@ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/ravingCybernetic)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/8 "2026-04-15T12:18:05Z")
RC: not only that but Toby also said no songs from homestuck would be in deltarune so penumbra is doubly not possible ---
**Author:** ![DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/dapixl2000/32/2069_2.png) [@DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaPixl2000)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:08pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/9 "2026-04-15T13:08:24Z")
Technically penumbra phantasm wasn’t ever used for homestuck so it was possible, but now it’s not Also why are you now speaking in purple? ---
**Author:** ![ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/ravingcybernetic/32/11444_2.png) [@ravingCybernetic](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/ravingCybernetic)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:11pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/10 "2026-04-15T13:11:18Z")
RC: 1. it was used as a motif in a lot of songs and it was made for homestuck I’d consider it a homestuck song 2. because I feel like it idk ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/11 "2026-04-15T16:38:04Z")
> SO NOW WE'RE USING SPECIAL FONTS? INDEED VERY VERY INTERESTING. ---
**Author:** ![Xanderjedi11](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/xanderjedi11/32/26123_2.png) [@Xanderjedi11](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Xanderjedi11)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/12 "2026-04-15T17:06:33Z")
> [@DaPixl2000](#): > > as the creator of one of the motifs it used sadly passed away, so he’s not using it. Is that really the reason? ---
**Author:** ![DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/dapixl2000/32/2069_2.png) [@DaPixl2000](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/DaPixl2000)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/13 "2026-04-15T17:41:53Z")
I saw that somewhere, Idr where though ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/14 "2026-04-16T00:12:17Z")
It's probably the reason ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 4:28pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/15 "2026-04-16T16:28:16Z")
𝒪𝒽𝒽 𝒻𝒶𝓃𝒸𝓎 𝒻𝑜𝓃𝓉 ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/16 "2026-04-18T01:13:32Z")
what you mean fancy this is normal ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/17 "2026-04-18T17:08:27Z")
𝕊𝕠𝕞𝕖𝕥𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕨𝕣𝕠𝕟𝕘 𝕚𝕤 𝕟𝕠𝕥 𝕣𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥 𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖 ---
**Author:** ![Remex\_Remige](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/remex_remige/32/890_2.png) [@Remex\_Remige](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Remex_Remige)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/18 "2026-04-18T23:32:33Z")
> [@Echoescreates](#): > > But there's something about listening to Finale or Battle against a true hero that I just don't get from Hammer of Justice or Black Knife or whatever. Isn't this "something" literally nostalgia? ---
**Author:** ![Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/echoescreates/32/10159_2.png) [@Echoescreates](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Echoescreates)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 11:50pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/19 "2026-04-18T23:50:56Z")
I never played Undertale as a kid. And when I did I couldn't get past Mettaton EX, and also I was more of an AU person. I guess maybe? But... also not really ---
**Author:** ![HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/harbingerknightthesecond/32/26163_2.png) [@HarbingerKnightTheSecond](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/HarbingerKnightTheSecond)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 11:53pm UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214/20 "2026-04-18T23:53:50Z")
> [@Remex\_Remige](#): > > Isn't this "something" literally nostalgia? Nah it's just that when Tobert Foxington makes worse music, it sounds better, and when he does better music, it sounds worse The :dog: paradox [Next page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/im-gonna-say-something-crazy/4214.md?page=2)