# Darkners lack Soul **URL:** \ **Category:** Deltarune Discussion\ **Tags:** soul\ **Created:** [December 7, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594 "2025-12-07T06:35:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Carter](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@Carter](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Carter)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:35am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/1 "2025-12-07T06:35:34Z")
Soul is the source of will/determination. Ralsei dialogue That's your SOUL, the culmination of your being! Within, it holds your WILL... your COMPASSION.. ...and the FATE of the world Library book The SOUL has long been called many things. The font of our compassion. The source of our will. The container of our "life force." But even now, the true function of it is unknown. Queen before battle With Noelle In My Possession It Is Only A Matter Of Time Before Her Will Turns And She Unleashes Her Power Blanketing The World In — Queen after battle That Is When I Realized This Power... This Power Of The Will This Power Of Determination... Is This Not Something That All Lightners Possess...? If One Was Simply Determined Enough Could Not Anyone Make A Dark Fountain? Queen needs Noelle to create Fountains. If Darkners had Souls, they would had will/determination to create Fountains. Ergo Darkners lack Soul. I think it's good enough evidence to at least write that “Darkners heavily implied to lack Soul”. ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:37am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/2 "2025-12-07T06:37:04Z")
dont write stuff like that on the wiki, because its technicly speculation. I agree tho. (also, Welcome, if you are gonna do more stuff on discussions!) ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:53am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/3 "2025-12-07T06:53:35Z")
yep heavily makes sense. or maybe, do darkners just have SOULs but no DT? ---
**Author:** ![AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/AstroOne)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:55am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/4 "2025-12-07T06:55:30Z")
undertale monsters have very little determination but have a soul ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:55am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/5 "2025-12-07T06:55:51Z")
Ow waow so many new users ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:58am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/6 "2025-12-07T06:58:19Z")
Yes, I am aware. But it essentially plays almost no role, except for certain outliers such as Undyne the undying. Perhaps we will see something like that in future weird routes. ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:59am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/7 "2025-12-07T06:59:59Z")
@AstroOne and @Carter, will you guys be active on the discussions often? ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:00am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/8 "2025-12-07T07:00:44Z")
I hope they randomly find the CHAOS, CHAOS! we made in #fangames and AUs. ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:01am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/9 "2025-12-07T07:01:16Z")
oh yes. I'll give you two a hint: 1.6k. ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:01am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/10 "2025-12-07T07:01:53Z")
> [@Palladium\_standard](#): > > #Fangames and AUs fixed ---
**Author:** ![AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/AstroOne)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:02am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/11 "2025-12-07T07:02:11Z")
i joined the discord so ill probably discuss here occasionally ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:02am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/12 "2025-12-07T07:02:39Z")
🔥 should I join the discord? what’s It like? ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/13 "2025-12-07T07:03:01Z")
\*Veteran asking a newcomer about their Wiki (Well, not really veteran, but still.) ---
**Author:** ![AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/AstroOne)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/14 "2025-12-07T07:03:18Z")
what am i supposed to say? what qualities of the server? ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/15 "2025-12-07T07:03:38Z")
_shuttup_ like just if its like here or not ---
**Author:** ![AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@AstroOne](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/AstroOne)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/16 "2025-12-07T07:04:18Z")
this is the first time i have ever viewed a discussion on this wiki so i have no ides if its like here or not ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/17 "2025-12-07T07:04:28Z")
> [@Palladium\_standard](#): > > (Well, not really veteran, but still.) HEY IVE BEEN HERE FOR HALF A YEAR NOW SONNY IM OLDER THAN YOU (on the wiki at least) ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/18 "2025-12-07T07:04:40Z")
Then go check out the other places. ---
**Author:** ![Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/palladium_standard/32/25844_2.png) [@Palladium\_standard](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Palladium_standard)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/19 "2025-12-07T07:04:58Z")
(I’M OLD! intensifies) ---
**Author:** ![Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/user_avatar/undertale.wiki/voice/32/7119_2.png) [@Voice](https://undertale.wiki/d/u/Voice)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 7:05am UTC](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594/20 "2025-12-07T07:05:06Z")
id reccomend you do! we have stuff from Aus, to 1.6k replies! [Next page](https://undertale.wiki/d/t/darkners-lack-soul/2594.md?page=2)